@jik @kims @pkrugman I certainly agree they should unionize and this right should be protected by contract! Certainly, there are plenty of examples of bad behavior by news organizations. But I suspect there's much less of it than bad behavior towards, say, diner waitresses, because it very often does become quite bitterly public!
AI art is both derivative and integrative so it collapses in on itself and winks out of existence in a burst of pure energy.
@jik @kims @pkrugman journalists may or may not look out for their own careers first, but if we tolerate norms to support only that and the incumbent network effect is at twitter, that's a problem.
the thing about journalism is it's very public. if it's seen as a real defiance of journalistic norms to blackhole follower lists on job transitions, reputable organizations won't do that.
@kims @pkrugman mastodon lets you move servers and bring your followers. it ought to be the journalistic norm that of course writers who leave are allowed to do that.
it’s true this would create an extra level of leverage and control by employers, undesirably. on the upside, part of that would be used to take back control now in twitter’s hands, so industry wide it’d be in more diverse hands.
depends what counterfactual you think likely, tusk or musk, without institutional encouragement.
@yarrriv it is! but it’s a side project of some independent journalists, not a norm encouraged by employers. i think it ought to be the latter, especially in a world where the de facto alternative is your writers participate in twitter, which ought to be understood as pretty problematic.
i think it’s really excellent that @pkrugman is here, on his own and his own initiative.
but shouldn’t any serious lager-scale journalistic organization have its own instance? shouldn’t, as a matter of course, he have an identity as @pkrugman@masto.nytimes.com, along with all of his colleagues?
@brentg @t0nyyates I have no scientifically defensible means of quantification and ranking! In my experience, the most effective disinformation is extremely parsimonious with outright falsehood, and weaves its lies out of tendentiously curated truths!
@brentg @t0nyyates one of the most effective forms of pro-racism disinformation is radically disproportionate portrayal of e.g. criminality by members of one racial group. each incident cited may be true, but by offering these true incidents and restricting portrayals of the group mostly to those, straight-up false racist ideas are effectively conveyed without recourse to a single lie.
@t0nyyates a more chiseled form!
the most effective disinformation is a careful selection of true information.
if you chisel away the things you don’t want seen from all the things that are true, you can sculpt whatever impression you like. where is the lie?
@mossguy@mastodon.green Thanks! I’d not noticed “unlisted”. And maybe!
Toot! describes unlisted as “Your toot will be shown only on your profile and to your followers, but not on public timelines.”
i guess the question would be whether it’s shown to followers on other instances.
I wonder if it wouldn’t be better if Mastodon had some kind of “for export” switch for posts. posts not marked for export would not be pushed to people on other instances who follow the author. 1/
the promise of a post-centralized social media world is different forums can have different community standards. but communities that export what other communities find wildy out-of-standards will and should be widely defederated. 2/
a “for export” flag would enable different moderation standards for internal-only conversations than for posts that will participate in the global public square. a degree of caution and diplomacy might be required for the latter that would not be desired, should not be required, for conversations “at home”, in a world of diverse, weird, not mutually intelligible homes. /fin
so often people call it sensitive content when what they mean is it’s insensitive content.
there is nothing more cliché than edgy, but it can hardly be edgy if it’s cliché.
"The most important thing about a technology is not necessarily what can be done with it in singular instances, it is rather what habits its use instills in us and how these habits shape us over time." @lmsacasas https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/p/lonely-surfaces-on-ai-generated-images
@SteveRoth i still think we should have fail snail or fail tail though. https://fosstodon.org/@interfluidity/109491658645676707
@corburn Thanks! I think that was my issue. I get very sloppy with browser tabs. Until I declare One Tab bankruptcy, I often end up with multiple duplicates of places I recur to. I hadn't really thought about how annoying that must be from the server side for applications that poll a lot.
i know it's derivative, but these “Rate limited Please retry after…” messages are boring.
masstodon should adopt a "fail snail". or maybe a "fail tail" showing a mastodon from behind.
the conceit the dead would care enough to haunt us.