@bmath physical violence is a clearer boundary. and the permeability of enemy status is important. when the enemy is an ethnicity, an enemy can only be exiled or eliminated. Bernie's enemies can be taxed to innocence without a feather on their physical persons. how about desantis and trans/gay people? is that more like Bernie (a person is physically capable of living as gender-assigned-at-birth) or like ethnicity (capable not really, much of the class would be wholly immiserated, mb suicide?)