@bmath some degree of what might be termed social violence is i think always used. florida's fascist movement is animated by the perceived violence of being called bigots for what they take as traditional views. is that social violence? where on the spectrun from poppy seeds to junk is "cancel culture"? and the escalation in purported reaction, $35K almost automatically if someone calls you a racist: defense or social violence? enmity is often mutual, but who wields it from a position of power?

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@bmath physical violence is a clearer boundary. and the permeability of enemy status is important. when the enemy is an ethnicity, an enemy can only be exiled or eliminated. Bernie's enemies can be taxed to innocence without a feather on their physical persons. how about desantis and trans/gay people? is that more like Bernie (a person is physically capable of living as gender-assigned-at-birth) or like ethnicity (capable not really, much of the class would be wholly immiserated, mb suicide?)

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